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File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTMLThe distribution of deaths by age was also noteworthy in 1918. The open- air treatment for the influenza patients was decided upon as the best way of
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1918 Spanish flu treatment may also be effective for current avian influenza patients

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Published: Monday, 4-Sep-2006

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USU faculty (http://www.usuhs.mil/) have discovered that a treatment for the Spanish Influenza pandemic may also be effective for current Avian Influenza patients.

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Navy Capt. Edward Kilbane, Army Col. Jeffrey Jackson and Navy Lt. Cmdr. Thomas Luke, are all alumni and faculty of the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USU) (http://www.usuhs.mil/). They, along with retired Navy physician, Capt. Stephen Hoffman, published their research Tuesday, Aug. 29, in the online edition of the Annals of Internal Medicine (http://www.annals.org/).
The four researchers analyzed medical literature reported during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 to 1920. They found that transfusions with blood products from Spanish Flu survivors may have reduced the risk of death in seriously ill Spanish Flu patients.
The meta-analysis of these data show that treatment of patients in 1918 with convalescent whole blood, plasma or serum obtained from humans who had recovered from Spanish Influenza resulted in a reduced mortality of seriously ill patients by 50 percent.

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Why Scientists Fear Avian Flu may Evolve into a Global Pandemic first recorded case of the Spanish Flu occurred on March 4, 1918 in Camp Fuston, Kansas.
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The next steps would be a study to determine if treatment of patients with convalescent plasma containing anti-H5N1 antibodies from recovered from patients could lead to similar results for patients with Avian Influenza.
"Plasma is produced in local hospitals worldwide and transfusions might be useful in treating bird flu patients during outbreaks and pandemics, especially in light of the limitations of existing treatment options," Commander Luke said. "A single recovered bird-flu patient could donate a weekly volume of plasma sufficient to treat many patients with H5N1 influenza."

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Oct 3, 2008 1918 H1N1 Spanish influenza 1957 H2N2 Asian influenza – reassortment 1968 H3N2 .. Oseltamavir in the treatment of H5N1 influenza patients
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Their article titled, "Convalescent Blood Products for Spanish Influenza Pneumonia: A Future H5N1 Treatment?" will be published in the Oct. 17 print edition of Annals of Internal Medicine.
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This is becoming a strange conversation :). I say let them. But don't expect any miracles, that's all I'm saying. There aren't even enough needles to inject vaccine into people let alone someone else's antibodies.

I think the original research did not claim to be a miracle remedy, but only that it was a effective way to reduce mortality and morbidity.

Maybe you should read the original text in the las post of that location
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It sure can't be manage to much bigger scale than blood transfusion is righ now but I think, organisation like Red-Cross and other blood related organisation should consider some prepping scenario where they can manage a high volume.

The four researchers analyzed medical literature reported during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 to 1920. They found that transfusions with blood products from Spanish Flu survivors may have reduced the risk of death in seriously ill Spanish Flu patients.
According to what I read yesterday, there wasn't anything a doctor did to a Spanish flu patient that didn't make them feel better... :)

I'm not saying it didn't work. I'm sure it did. And I'm sure they'll find it will work now too. But basing it on what was being reported in 1918 to have worked is pretty crazy--they were giving every kind of poison imaginable to their patients in the hopes that it would work, and then making dramatic announcements in the literature about it. The problem today is that giving serum to bird flu patients is completely impractical -- there would be no practical way to screen huge numbers of sample for other viruses such as HIV, and there would be no way to even take out residual H5N1 out of the blood that had not yet been cleared--allowing for huge numbers of dual infections and complications.

According to what I read yesterday, there wasn't anything a doctor did to a Spanish flu patient that didn't make them feel better... :)

I'm not saying it didn't work. I'm sure it did. And I'm sure they'll find it will work now too. But basing it on what was being reported in 1918 to have worked is pretty crazy--they were giving every kind of poison imaginable to their patients in the hopes that it would work, and then making dramatic announcements in the literature about it. The problem today is that giving serum to bird flu patients is completely impractical -- there would be no practical way to screen huge numbers of sample for other viruses such as HIV, and there would be no way to even take out residual H5N1 out of the blood that had not yet been cleared--allowing for huge numbers of dual infections and complications.
Sharpe, realistically, how many people with aids do you think will survive influenza? Same for chronic active hepatitis. and a bunch of other things. By the time people are this desparate, I think a lot of people with chronic diseases will be, errm, out of the gene pool and up on the beach.